I think there’s two aspects of a log/flat profile to take into account: Dynamic range and flexibility. While a ‘Flat’ profile would offer no additional dynamic range, it would offer more flexibility in terms of selective color, white balance, etc because the colors are stripped away and get to decide how to add them back. If this were available in rec2020 or P3, which both contribute to the dynamic range side, I would be using this feature every day.
Jamm Hostetler
Team•
May 1
We removed these profiles because they provided no additional editing latitude over Rec.709. What kind of workflow did you find them useful in?
somwhere-raw
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May 2
Thanks for clarifying! I understand they don’t add dynamic range beyond Rec.709. Still, for me the flat, low‑contrast starting point made grading multiple clips much faster and more consistent, purely as a convenience for matching shots, similar to how “Flat” profiles work on DSLRs. Would you consider adding a simple “Low Contrast / Flat” video profile in MPC2, even if it’s just a Rec.709 with reduced contrast and saturation? That would bring back the practical workflow without any need for real log encoding, at least for non-pro devices.
Jamm Hostetler
Team•
May 2
Noted! Yes, we can consider this. Also considering a profile that would attempt to match Apple Log for consistent grading, even if it doesn’t add dynamic range.
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JD Waters
May 10
I think there’s two aspects of a log/flat profile to take into account: Dynamic range and flexibility. While a ‘Flat’ profile would offer no additional dynamic range, it would offer more flexibility in terms of selective color, white balance, etc because the colors are stripped away and get to decide how to add them back. If this were available in rec2020 or P3, which both contribute to the dynamic range side, I would be using this feature every day.
Jamm Hostetler
May 1
We removed these profiles because they provided no additional editing latitude over Rec.709. What kind of workflow did you find them useful in?
somwhere-raw
May 2
Thanks for clarifying! I understand they don’t add dynamic range beyond Rec.709. Still, for me the flat, low‑contrast starting point made grading multiple clips much faster and more consistent, purely as a convenience for matching shots, similar to how “Flat” profiles work on DSLRs. Would you consider adding a simple “Low Contrast / Flat” video profile in MPC2, even if it’s just a Rec.709 with reduced contrast and saturation? That would bring back the practical workflow without any need for real log encoding, at least for non-pro devices.
Jamm Hostetler
May 2
Noted! Yes, we can consider this. Also considering a profile that would attempt to match Apple Log for consistent grading, even if it doesn’t add dynamic range.